Twisting the wrist for more throw???

[davek]

Originally Posted by Koop

Thanks Dave, although it was was post #34 you are referring to

Koop - straight wrist and no elbow drop

Hey, it was late, I'd been drinking, and there's little difference between 34 and 37 (OK, 3 to be exact) and wtf it was the last post anyway .... or maybe this Dave isn't as bright as he thinks he is

And for the record, I spent about an hour messing with that wrist snap to deflect the cueball by the edge of an interfering ball, but with very limited success. I dropped that idea with the thought that either I was doing it wrong or it simply doesn't work ... either way it is not part of my arsenal of shots.

Dave

[New2YouQs]

The "twist" technique is used by a lot of good bank pool players (Truman Hogue is a master of it). The technique imparts maximum throw on the object ball to create a bank angle which does not exist if played with little or no english. It can be a very powerful shot when used in Banks and One Pocket especially. It is not a technique that would be used often, but in the right situation it can be a game winner.

[Jazz]

Originally Posted by New2YouQs

The "twist" technique is used by a lot of good bank pool players (Truman Hogue is a master of it). The technique imparts maximum throw on the object ball to create a bank angle which does not exist if played with little or no english. It can be a very powerful shot when used in Banks and One Pocket especially. It is not a technique that would be used often, but in the right situation it can be a game winner.

Ya .. my question was for banking in one pocket situation. ****, if it's good enough for Tony Chohan, it's good enough for me.

Jeff Gregory beat John Henderson (jrhendy on the other board) for my pool hall monthly one pocket tournament .. only one great player missing was Billy Palmer who had a stroke down in la la land during Swanson tourney ...

[PocketRattler]

Originally Posted by Jazz

Talking to Jeff Gregory last night (local shortstop) while he was being disgusted (at lack of skills being shown) watching me play 1 pocket
, he mentioned that Tony Chohan showed him how to "twist" or "snap" the wrist to get action on the ball while banking.

Anyone know what he's talking about? Apparently this gives more English on the cue ball.

A few years back, I donated a little cash money to Rodney Morris's retirement fund. Its hard not to notice the very pronounced "wrist snap" that he uses in on almost all shots. I had watched him before but never seen it up close and in person.

Is that the "wrist snap" you are referring to?

[Eric.]

Originally Posted by New2YouQs

The "twist" technique is used by a lot of good bank pool players (Truman Hogue is a master of it). The technique imparts maximum throw on the object ball to create a bank angle which does not exist if played with little or no english. It can be a very powerful shot when used in Banks and One Pocket especially. It is not a technique that would be used often, but in the right situation it can be a game winner.

I agree. It might be called a bunch of different things, and the English can be by a wrist twist or whatever technique of your choice.

IMO, this is one of the "secrets" of banks. Twisting can change the angle and create an angle that you couldn't get normally. A common example is "pinching" a bank shot:


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HEre is a shot where the double kiss is huge. If you just shoot it, the bank doesn't go.

The shot can be made if you "pinch" the bank in; shoot with low inside spin. Shoot it medium-firm and straight into the 1 ball. The spin shortens up the bank and it goes. The mistake is trying to cut it a lil trying to avoid the dbl kiss.


Eric

[Catscradle]

Originally Posted by Eric.

I agree. It might be called a bunch of different things, and the English can be by a wrist twist or whatever technique of your choice.

IMO, this is one of the "secrets" of banks. Twisting can change the angle and create an angle that you couldn't get normally. A common example is "pinching" a bank shot:

HEre is a shot where the double kiss is huge. If you just shoot it, the bank doesn't go.

The shot can be made if you "pinch" the bank in; shoot with low inside spin. Shoot it medium-firm and straight into the 1 ball. The spin shortens up the bank and it goes. The mistake is trying to cut it a lil trying to avoid the dbl kiss.


Eric

Eric, I absolutely agree that banks can be shortened or widened by spin imparted on the cue ball, but I don't agree that you have to use "snap" or "twist" to accomplish that end. I agree that by snapping the wrist the terminal velocity when the cue tip strikes the ball can be increased resulting in more spin, but I think the timing has to be near perfect and the risk of effecting the cueball in other ways is too high. JMHO.

[Eric.]

Originally Posted by Catscradle

Eric, I absolutely agree that banks can be shortened or widened by spin imparted on the cue ball, but I don't agree that you have to use "snap" or "twist" to accomplish that end. I agree that by snapping the wrist the terminal velocity when the cue tip strikes the ball can be increased resulting in more spin, but I think the timing has to be near perfect and the risk of effecting the cueball in other ways is too high. JMHO.

Good point, Steve.

Personally, I dont like twisting or swiping. I prefer back hand english, where i am still stroking straight. For me, it's more predictable.


Eric